I think we shall not meet again...
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ceebeegeeIn my continuing obsession with Sweeney Todd, I've been lurking on the imdb boards. There are some very funny posts there, such as:
Things I Learned From Sweeney Todd:
We all deserve to Die.
Policemen making rounds and judges in search of their abducted wards will never be too busy for a shave.
The stress of being in jail really does give you white hair. Not all around, though, like a normal person--like the Bride of Frankenstein.
There's no place Like London!
Johanna is the only person in the world who wouldn't marry Alan Rickman.
Even if you've been beaten severely with a cane you can still get up, walk normally down the street and belt out a song
Anthony has the worst timing...ever.
Despite any previous heart-warming ballads, it is not a good idea to follow your adoptive mother-figure into a dark, creepy basement. You will regret doing so later.
You can't just "pop into" Mrs. Lovett's for a pie. Nah, you have to get the whole bloody tale about the raped wife of her long-lost love.
Apparently giving someone the key to your house is a sign that you want to elope with him tomorrow at a specific time.
Close the oven door when you're waltzing with a homicidal maniac in front of it.
And in another post:
Things Sweeney Todd characters would never say:
Judge: (as he clings to Lovett's skirt) (Monty Python style) I'm not dead yet!
Anthony: I feeelll you, Johanna!
Johanna (slaps Anthony across mouth): Pervert!
*Judge Turpin walks out*
Mrs. Lovett: If you were waiting for the opportune moment, that was it.
Sweeney: Nah, it's cool, get him next time.
And my personal favorite:
Sweeney: I forgive you.
And in another vein, I have to say Todd's version of "Johanna" has some of the saddest lyrics ever.
I think we shall not meet again...
And if I never hear your voice,
My turtledove, my dear,
I still have reason to rejoice:
The way ahead is clear, Johanna...
And in that darkness when I'm blind
With what I can't forget —
It's always morning in my mind,
My little lamb, my pet, Johanna…
And though I'll think of you, I guess, until the day I die,
I think I miss you less and less as every day goes by,
Johanna...
And you'd be beautiful and pale,
And look too much like her.
If only angels could prevail,
We'd be the way we were, Johanna...
Wake up, Johanna! Another bright red day!
We learn, Johanna, to say goodbye!
Especially "I think I miss you less and less..."--what's really slipping away is his humanity. He's more consumed with murder than with actually reuniting with his daughter. It's such a sad story.
Things I Learned From Sweeney Todd:
We all deserve to Die.
Policemen making rounds and judges in search of their abducted wards will never be too busy for a shave.
The stress of being in jail really does give you white hair. Not all around, though, like a normal person--like the Bride of Frankenstein.
There's no place Like London!
Johanna is the only person in the world who wouldn't marry Alan Rickman.
Even if you've been beaten severely with a cane you can still get up, walk normally down the street and belt out a song
Anthony has the worst timing...ever.
Despite any previous heart-warming ballads, it is not a good idea to follow your adoptive mother-figure into a dark, creepy basement. You will regret doing so later.
You can't just "pop into" Mrs. Lovett's for a pie. Nah, you have to get the whole bloody tale about the raped wife of her long-lost love.
Apparently giving someone the key to your house is a sign that you want to elope with him tomorrow at a specific time.
Close the oven door when you're waltzing with a homicidal maniac in front of it.
And in another post:
Things Sweeney Todd characters would never say:
Judge: (as he clings to Lovett's skirt) (Monty Python style) I'm not dead yet!
Anthony: I feeelll you, Johanna!
Johanna (slaps Anthony across mouth): Pervert!
*Judge Turpin walks out*
Mrs. Lovett: If you were waiting for the opportune moment, that was it.
Sweeney: Nah, it's cool, get him next time.
And my personal favorite:
Sweeney: I forgive you.
And in another vein, I have to say Todd's version of "Johanna" has some of the saddest lyrics ever.
I think we shall not meet again...
And if I never hear your voice,
My turtledove, my dear,
I still have reason to rejoice:
The way ahead is clear, Johanna...
And in that darkness when I'm blind
With what I can't forget —
It's always morning in my mind,
My little lamb, my pet, Johanna…
And though I'll think of you, I guess, until the day I die,
I think I miss you less and less as every day goes by,
Johanna...
And you'd be beautiful and pale,
And look too much like her.
If only angels could prevail,
We'd be the way we were, Johanna...
Wake up, Johanna! Another bright red day!
We learn, Johanna, to say goodbye!
Especially "I think I miss you less and less..."--what's really slipping away is his humanity. He's more consumed with murder than with actually reuniting with his daughter. It's such a sad story.
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Date: 2007-12-31 09:52 pm (UTC)"Johanna is the only person in the world who wouldn't marry Alan Rickman."
(Also, I find it amusing that the other bit of music currently stuck in my head is...
My staff has murdered giants
My bag a long knife carries
For to cut mince pies from children's thighs
With which to feed the fairies)
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Date: 2007-12-31 09:54 pm (UTC)...
Antony has the worst timing...ever.
That's spit-take funny.
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Date: 2007-12-31 10:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-31 10:12 pm (UTC)oh, I totally agree! It was when he barged in that I realized that this film/play/book would normally be all about him and his love story. Why else would everyone just happen to be in the room at that point?
I imagined Sweeney sighing, casually cutting the judge's throat, turning on Anthony, and saying "You know, this isn't actually all about you." He doesn't put his blade down, no. He waves it for emphasis while the judge twitches because Sweeney's so fed up with the kid he forgot to dump Turpin down the chute.
ahem. excuse me. I'm done now.
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Date: 2007-12-31 11:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-31 11:26 pm (UTC)I did have the music stuck in my head for a while after though.
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Date: 2007-12-31 11:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-01 12:37 am (UTC)I was saying that I found the hilarity in this different than in stage productions, and I just figured it out. It was that it was Tim Burton Visual Funny rather than Sondheim Aural Funny. (As would be appropriate for film)
However the fake blood color still pissed me off :)
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Date: 2008-01-01 12:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-01 12:57 am (UTC)(My favorite song, however, was Pretty Women. Because it is. And I really liked their voices in counterpoint.)
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Date: 2008-01-01 12:05 am (UTC)Yes, the lyrics to Todd's Johanna are beautiful and extremely sad. For me, the whole reason Sweeney is slitting throats while singing this is to distance himself from the emotion he must be feeling. However, while distancing himself, he is not only "dealing" with never seeing Johanna again, but also distancing himself from humanity so that he is able to complete his vengeful task. Keith and I were discussing this the day after we saw it for the first time (we saw it again, on Sunday, the 30th.) What I enjoy (because of my love of dark humor) is Sweeney's practicing slitting the throats. He is not just murdering, he is making art.
The Art of Throat Slitting by Sweeney Todd. Hey, I'd buy it.
I have more, but I don't want to inundate you with stuff. Lord knows, I can psychoanalyze this play to death.
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Date: 2008-01-01 12:50 am (UTC)This makes a lot of sense. Man! I just can't get over how sad that song is. And in that darkness when I'm blind/
With what I can't forget/...It's always morning in my mind.... Oh my GOD, is that sad. The slow goodbye to...everything, the last tie.
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Date: 2008-01-01 03:05 am (UTC)Goodbye, Johanna.
You're gone, and yet you're mine.
I'm fine, Johanna,
I'm fine!
Clearly, from a normal person's POV he is not fine. But, to him, now that he is on his murderous rampage, he IS fine.
What has always made me love Sondheim (and proves that the man is "an unadulterated genius" - to quote Sondheim himself) is that listening to his scores over and over and over, you find so many layers to everything - like an onion (how cliche' is that!) But, it's true. Every line, every word, every song just reveals more and more depth upon listening.