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ceebeegeeJust another reason I can't stand our current Emperor with No Clothes. God forbid he be confronted with the knowledge that some of his constituents (you know, the people who pay his salary and to whom he is beholden) disagree with him:
As Bush has traveled the United States during this political campaign, the Secret Service and local police have often handled public protest by quickly arresting or removing demonstrators, free-speech advocates say.
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"It's clear that some of these security zones are not based on legitimate security concerns. They are based on the idea of the president not seeing someone who disagrees with him, which basically undermines the whole idea of the First Amendment."
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The Kerry campaign says it does not limit attendance based on political views, a point Kerry has made frequently when confronted by hecklers on the campaign trail."
If this happened to me, I would sue the shit out these people for false arrest. Arrest should not be a political tool to suppress dissent--it should an enforcement of the law. What law is there against telling the President you disagree with him? But I'm disgusted, not surprised--it's clear from Bush's policies that he intends to give the big middle finger to half the country's population, despite his running as "a uniter, not a divider" and notwithstanding that less than half the country voted for him. Why can't he talk to these people, why can't he acknowledge that a lot of voters disagree with his policies, why can't he reach out? Oh, because he thinks God told him to do this. I guess if God is in the Cabinet, you don't need to listen to the little people.
As Bush has traveled the United States during this political campaign, the Secret Service and local police have often handled public protest by quickly arresting or removing demonstrators, free-speech advocates say.
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"It's clear that some of these security zones are not based on legitimate security concerns. They are based on the idea of the president not seeing someone who disagrees with him, which basically undermines the whole idea of the First Amendment."
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The Kerry campaign says it does not limit attendance based on political views, a point Kerry has made frequently when confronted by hecklers on the campaign trail."
If this happened to me, I would sue the shit out these people for false arrest. Arrest should not be a political tool to suppress dissent--it should an enforcement of the law. What law is there against telling the President you disagree with him? But I'm disgusted, not surprised--it's clear from Bush's policies that he intends to give the big middle finger to half the country's population, despite his running as "a uniter, not a divider" and notwithstanding that less than half the country voted for him. Why can't he talk to these people, why can't he acknowledge that a lot of voters disagree with his policies, why can't he reach out? Oh, because he thinks God told him to do this. I guess if God is in the Cabinet, you don't need to listen to the little people.
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Date: 2004-10-28 12:18 pm (UTC)You're right, Wellstone and Mondale (and Hubert H Humphrey before them) were all to the left of the Democrats nationally. But also recall that in 1988, Pat Robertson won the Minnesota Republican caucuses, rather handily. Minnesota is a bipolar state. The Twin Cities and Duluth lean far left; the suburbs and the rural areas lean well right. Each is roughly half the population. Mondale in 1984, incidentally, won by a fairly slim margin, and mostly because we didn't want to see a hometown boy humiliated.
As for religion there, the particular brand of Lutheranism that's dominant in southern Minnesota is pretty seriously evangelical, and sometimes my own relatives scare me a bit. There are good reasons I don't go back there often.
Anyway, I'm sure that was fascinating, but of course it was off-topic. My intention was not to offend, and I apologize for doing so. I just find it very difficult to ignore arguments against my candidate when I feel those arguments are misrepresented, or inaccurate. I'm just to the point now where I'm starting to figure, everyone's decided, so maybe it's time to just stop arguing and wait for November 2nd.
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Date: 2004-10-28 12:23 pm (UTC)Uh, yeah, that's it. That's who I meant. ;) The one who died in a plane crash recently.
Peace :) We'll drink about this on Saturday, over roasted pumpkin seeds.
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Date: 2004-10-29 12:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-28 12:26 pm (UTC)Minnesota politics is really just...strange. Maybe that's how I turned out as I did :)
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Date: 2004-10-28 12:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-28 12:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-28 01:00 pm (UTC)See, unless you hunt or ice-fish, there really isn't anything to do in Minnesota from about October to May, which explains a lot of what happens out there...
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Date: 2004-10-28 01:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-28 01:11 pm (UTC)