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ceebeegeeJust another reason I can't stand our current Emperor with No Clothes. God forbid he be confronted with the knowledge that some of his constituents (you know, the people who pay his salary and to whom he is beholden) disagree with him:
As Bush has traveled the United States during this political campaign, the Secret Service and local police have often handled public protest by quickly arresting or removing demonstrators, free-speech advocates say.
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"It's clear that some of these security zones are not based on legitimate security concerns. They are based on the idea of the president not seeing someone who disagrees with him, which basically undermines the whole idea of the First Amendment."
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The Kerry campaign says it does not limit attendance based on political views, a point Kerry has made frequently when confronted by hecklers on the campaign trail."
If this happened to me, I would sue the shit out these people for false arrest. Arrest should not be a political tool to suppress dissent--it should an enforcement of the law. What law is there against telling the President you disagree with him? But I'm disgusted, not surprised--it's clear from Bush's policies that he intends to give the big middle finger to half the country's population, despite his running as "a uniter, not a divider" and notwithstanding that less than half the country voted for him. Why can't he talk to these people, why can't he acknowledge that a lot of voters disagree with his policies, why can't he reach out? Oh, because he thinks God told him to do this. I guess if God is in the Cabinet, you don't need to listen to the little people.
As Bush has traveled the United States during this political campaign, the Secret Service and local police have often handled public protest by quickly arresting or removing demonstrators, free-speech advocates say.
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"It's clear that some of these security zones are not based on legitimate security concerns. They are based on the idea of the president not seeing someone who disagrees with him, which basically undermines the whole idea of the First Amendment."
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The Kerry campaign says it does not limit attendance based on political views, a point Kerry has made frequently when confronted by hecklers on the campaign trail."
If this happened to me, I would sue the shit out these people for false arrest. Arrest should not be a political tool to suppress dissent--it should an enforcement of the law. What law is there against telling the President you disagree with him? But I'm disgusted, not surprised--it's clear from Bush's policies that he intends to give the big middle finger to half the country's population, despite his running as "a uniter, not a divider" and notwithstanding that less than half the country voted for him. Why can't he talk to these people, why can't he acknowledge that a lot of voters disagree with his policies, why can't he reach out? Oh, because he thinks God told him to do this. I guess if God is in the Cabinet, you don't need to listen to the little people.
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Date: 2004-10-28 10:26 am (UTC)This is where you are wrong.
Are you going to convince me to vote for George W. Bush? Hell no. However, I do see the huge chunk that leaves my paycheck every week and goes directly to the government. Seriously, I'm just a hair's breath away from voting Republican, if only they could back away from the religious fanaticsm, nation building, and deficit spending and get back to true fiscal conservatism.
It is important for you to present to the people you hang out with (generally kneejerk liberals (
Please, don't go. Don't let our group become an echo-chamber of non-opposing views. You think we "hate" you now, imagine how much we would if we continually vilify (and misrepresent) your views in private without ever actually hearing them.
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Date: 2004-10-28 10:33 am (UTC)That's my point, though I could have been more clear that I was speaking of this specific election. Remember that I have said all along that I would prefer a different Republican to vote for.
In general, I enjoy a spirited political debate with people who disagree with me -- else I wouldn't have the friends that I do. It's just that this election has been so thoroughly draining, and amongst my friends, everyone's position is staked out, that it seems prudent for me to simply avoid the topic. For my own sanity's sake.
You think we "hate" you now...
I never said that. Merely that it's beyond the point of changing anyone's mind for November 2nd, 2004.