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Nov. 1st, 2004 06:14 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
From a Washington Post chat today about Americans who don't vote:
Dunn Loring, Va.: ...[T]he issue of non-voting...is an example of "free-rider" behavior: people trying to take advantage of not participating in collective activity. The classic free-rider situation is in battle when soldiers decide whether to fight or flee. If one soldier flees, he hurts the group only slightly (he is only one soldier) but he helps his own survival immensely. If lots of soldiers flee, they will be routed and even those who flee will be killed.
Although economists haven't really studied this issue formally, there is a notion of ethics that affects people's behavior in collective situations. People feel bad if they let down the group--and they should. [my emphasis]
...Did you sense any sense of guilt [because] they were not participating in democracy when they clearly benefit from having it?
And do you think that maybe many people don't vote in country because society has not made it clear that voting is not just a privilege but a duty, and not voting is just as unacceptable as fleeing the enemy in combat?
To paraphrase Shawshank Redemption: Get busy voting, or get busy leaving the democracy. You can't have it both ways--you can't take advantage of the democratic process if you don't participate.
Dunn Loring, Va.: ...[T]he issue of non-voting...is an example of "free-rider" behavior: people trying to take advantage of not participating in collective activity. The classic free-rider situation is in battle when soldiers decide whether to fight or flee. If one soldier flees, he hurts the group only slightly (he is only one soldier) but he helps his own survival immensely. If lots of soldiers flee, they will be routed and even those who flee will be killed.
Although economists haven't really studied this issue formally, there is a notion of ethics that affects people's behavior in collective situations. People feel bad if they let down the group--and they should. [my emphasis]
...Did you sense any sense of guilt [because] they were not participating in democracy when they clearly benefit from having it?
And do you think that maybe many people don't vote in country because society has not made it clear that voting is not just a privilege but a duty, and not voting is just as unacceptable as fleeing the enemy in combat?
To paraphrase Shawshank Redemption: Get busy voting, or get busy leaving the democracy. You can't have it both ways--you can't take advantage of the democratic process if you don't participate.
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Date: 2004-11-01 05:38 pm (UTC)Another sweeping statement which doesn't take into account everyone's belief system.
Doesn't mean it still ain't the truth.
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Date: 2004-11-02 09:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-02 10:15 am (UTC)It really bothers me that you can casually dismiss the voting process as an act of democracy unto itself. It isn't. It shows contempt for a country that took you in and provided you the freedom and opportunity to live a decent, dignified life. That didn't come from apathy, it came from generations of people who got off their ass and got involved.
A lot of good people died to protect your right to blithely spit on the flag. I fought for it, so did Mike, so are millions of others. But I'm sure you don't care.
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Date: 2004-11-02 10:26 am (UTC)Saying and doing are two entirely different things. I haven't killed anyone, and a release of negative energy allows for just that.
Oh, and if I didn't care, I would have left this country a long time ago.
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Date: 2004-11-02 10:34 am (UTC)I really don't think you care, not at all. And weren't you just telling us recently that you planned to leave the country anyway?
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Date: 2004-11-02 10:47 am (UTC)It is your opinion that I don't care. Perhaps I don't care as much on issues that are so general as to not apply to me, but I do care for those that affect my every day life. As for leaving the country, I have many reasons to leave, and this election isn't at the top. The reason that is at the top is the need for a change in life and finding my place in this world should the current one not work out.